Use the cubis mesher without normals and just calculate them into your shader.
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| Author: | kamac [ Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | MeshDecimator and CubicSurfaceExtractorWithNormals |
Hi. I've noticed that there's this MeshDecimator that I'd like to use with CubicSurfaceExtractorWithNormals (actually, it's a modified version to allow different kinds of blocks ). However, it is said that it won't work with it. Could somebody elaborate why? Maybe it's not that hard to fix. |
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| Author: | petersvp [ Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MeshDecimator and CubicSurfaceExtractorWithNormals |
Use the cubis mesher without normals and just calculate them into your shader.
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| Author: | kamac [ Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MeshDecimator and CubicSurfaceExtractorWithNormals |
Quote: that I'd like to use with CubicSurfaceExtractorWithNormals (actually, it's a modified version to allow different kinds of blocks ) I'd have to first rewrite my custom extractor to work with CubicSurfaceExtractor, and I'm not sure that'd be too easy, since I have slope surfaces, too. |
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| Author: | kamac [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MeshDecimator and CubicSurfaceExtractorWithNormals |
Okay, after I remove duplicate faces and make sure using cross product on faces gives a correct normal, I get a messed-up mesh. (I'm trying to build a 4x4x4 cube) It's shape is right, there's less vertices and triangles, but it's basically very messed up. (It doesn't have the expected two triangles per face) Any ideas what could that be? |
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| Author: | David Williams [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MeshDecimator and CubicSurfaceExtractorWithNormals |
Hi, sorry for the slow reply. In general I would not expect the MeshDecimator to behave correctly in this scenario, and actually both the CubicSurfaceExtractorWithNormals and MeshDecimator are removed from the development version of PolyVox. Instead we expect users to compute normals in their shader (actually we may provide some kind of normal in the future but this is still under consideration) and to use the built-in decimation of the 'extractCubicMesh()' function (which replaces the CubicSurfaceExtractor class). Note that you can still use shader-generated normals if you have slopes, etc, the only limitation would be that you have flat-shading rather than smooth-shading. The MeshDecimator was designed for the Marching Cubes meshes so I'm pretty sure it won't work properly for the cubic ones (or perhaps others). Perhaps you could try a dedicated mesh processing library such as OpenMesh(I haven't used it myself)? |
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| Author: | kamac [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MeshDecimator and CubicSurfaceExtractorWithNormals |
I did try to use OpenMesh, but stumbled upon lack of tutorials / up to date documentation (?). Couldn't really find out how to do what I wanted. I guess I might try once again if you say MeshDecimator won't work, though. I hope I can get it to work the way I need  Anyways, thanks for the reply.
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| Author: | Naskel [ Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MeshDecimator and CubicSurfaceExtractorWithNormals |
Hello, For who is interested in mesh decimator / simplification there is some good lib arround, take a look at : GTS stands for the GNU Triangulated Surface Library : http://gts.sourceforge.net/ Polyshop (Easy Mesh Simplification) : http://www.melax.com/polychop Or a more *simple* mesh "simplifier" : https://github.com/sp4cerat/Fast-Quadri ... lification Or use g**gle a bit, there is alot of result with "mesh simplification"  Edit: i forgot to say, there is some algo to test and easy to use : https://www.giawa.com/journal-entry-6-g ... imization/ http://0fps.net/2012/06/30/meshing-in-a-minecraft-game/ Best regards, Naskel |
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| Author: | David Williams [ Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MeshDecimator and CubicSurfaceExtractorWithNormals |
Naskel wrote: For who is interested in mesh decimator / simplification there is some good lib arround, take a look at : ... Yes, these are some good links, thanks. Naskel wrote: i forgot to say, there is some algo to test and easy to use : https://www.giawa.com/journal-entry-6-g ... imization/ http://0fps.net/2012/06/30/meshing-in-a-minecraft-game/ Best regards, Naskel Actually PolyVox already implements greedy meshing for cubic (Minecraft-style) meshes. It is only the smooth Marching Cubes meshes which need an external library for simplification. |
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